Dan Margulis Applied Color Theory

Impressionism and the AB Sharpen 
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Impressionistic effect
Posted by: "Gene Snyder"
Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:55 pm (PST)

I am looking for links which suggest how to impart an impressionistic effect to an image. I've tried several which came up in a Google search, but I wasn't really thrilled by any of them. Many thanks for the help.

Gene Snyder
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Re: Impressionistic effect
Posted by: "Mike Sellers"
Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:17 pm (PST)

Gene,

Have you checked out the Orton Method? Here is a good link
http: //www.naturephotographers.net/imagecritique/bbs.cgi?
a=vm&mr=24022&b=se&st=0&la=15&ph= 13&sid=10922&u=10922
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Re: Impressionistic effect
Posted by: "gene"
Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:19 pm (PST)

There were, and are still, many different impressionists [painters] and each had their own techniques. If you are looking to impart the suggestion that a piece of work might have been painted by a particular technique or painter you might try Virtual Painter. It's a Photoshop filter set. You can accomplish what you want with Photoshop...but you would have to know what you want and you would have to know Photoshop.

Gene Palmiter
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Impressionistic effect
Posted by: "milicska jalbert"
Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:59 am (PST)

I suggest you try André Gallant's web site www.andregallant.com for 3 short workflows using montage and dreamscape techniques. Beautiful photography too

Milicska Jalbert
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Impressionistic effect
Posted by: "Paco Marquez"
Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:59 am (PST)

Hi Gene,

Dan showed us at the ACT class a technique of his' for an impressionistic look. I'm sure if you ask him to, he will post it here.

May you all have a happy and safe holiday season! All the best!

Paco Marquez
661 McKinley
San Juan, PR 00907
787-721-8554 Studio
787-587-7384 Cel.
http://www.pacomarquez.com
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Re: Impressionistic effect
Posted by: Lee Clawson
Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:59 am (PST)

Gene,

Take a look at an application named Corel Painter.

Lee Clawson
2/\V/\7 Studio
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Impressionistic effect
Posted by: Dan Margulis
Mon Dec 24, 2007 8:42 am (PST)

Paco writes,

Dan showed us at the ACT class a technique of his' for an
impressionistic look. I'm sure if you ask him to, he will post it here.

As mentioned elsewhere, Painter has a fairly complete set of painterly filters, including one that's called Impressionist, if memory serves. While a filter may emulate to some extent the brush style of a particular Impressionist (like a pointillist filter to imitate the style of Seurat) there isn't a single brush-stroke style that would typify the Impressionist style--between Degas and Manet and Roualt, for example, there isn't a lot of commonality, let alone Seurat.

What *does* unify Impressionism is the practice of enhanced color variation where two unlike colors meet. So, the method I showed involved first making a copy of the original photograph, taking it into Painter, and applying some suitable brushstroke filter.

Then, returning to Photoshop, I put a copy of the original photo on top of the filtered version and converted to LAB without flattening. I then applied sharpening at 500% Amount and a very high Radius and set the layer mode to Color. In effect, therefore, the sharpening is applied to the AB channels only.

Going through this exercise made me realize many applications for sharpening the AB, which I wasn't aware of when I wrote the LAB book. In the advanced course, I showed the Impressionist method described above as a prelude to photographic images in which sharpening the AB paid dividends.

Dan Margulis
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Sharpening the AB
Posted by: "Wai-hong Chung"
Tue Dec 25, 2007 4:21 am (PST)

Hi Dan,

I found the tricks you've mentioned in PP5E and LAB book very rewarding. The more I read your books, the more I learn. You've mentioned that you are going to make 5 videos in the Online Photoshop Training, is the topic on "Sharpening the AB" included in one of those videos or if its not, where can I find the descriptions of this method?

Thank you in advance Dan, you are a hero to me!

Wai-hong Chung from Hong Kong
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Re: Sharpening the AB
Posted by: Dan Margulis
Tue Dec 25, 2007 9:51 am (PST)

The technique is described in the second LAB video, the one that is not yet posted (Kelby Training says it will probably be up in the second week of 2008).

For the three proposed picture-postcard videos, I am currently not planning to sharpen at all; I'm just going to say that obviously one needs to sharpen images but there isn't one technique that necessarily is best for the workflow, so just add your own favorite way to the end.

Serious comparison of sharpening methods on the small screen used in online video training is of limited utility, IMHO.

Dan Margulis
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Re: Sharpening the AB
Posted by: "Frank Collins"
Wed Dec 26, 2007 5:49 pm (PST)

Actually, it’s on the NAPP site now...I am getting ready to subscribe....there are many more also...

William L. (Frank) Collins
336-887-2703
IPMS 29961
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Re: Sharpening the AB
Posted by: "Gary Bailey"
Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:12 am (PST)

Frank.

I'm a NAPP member and just checked the site. Didn't see anything by Dan. Did I miss it?
Cheers.

GGB
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Re: Sharpening the AB
Posted by: "Michael Demyan"
Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:26 pm (PST)

You did not miss it - you just did not look in the right place.

Here is the link.
http: //www.kelbytraining.com/instructors/dan-margulis.html

Mike
Fine Photography
by Michael Demyan
www.mikedemyan.com
610-758-9769
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Re: Sharpening the AB
Posted by: "Gary Bailey"
Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:23 am (PST)

Thanks Mike!
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Re: Sharpening the AB
Posted by: "Frank Collins"
Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:23 am (PST)

Thanks Mike...you sometimes have to just noodle around....I just subscribed to Dan's lessons...look forward to them....

William L. (Frank) Collins
336-887-2703
IPMS 29961
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Kudos on A/B Channel Blending/Video
Posted by: john bongiovanni
Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:24 pm (PST)

Dan,

I'm working my way through your Kelby videos (mostly through the second one). Fantastic, and instantly applicable.

I made a bunch of shots at the Cenrale Montemartini in Rome, an amazing combination of a museum on electric power generation (it was Rome's first public power generation station) and Roman sculptures (it has a fantastic collection. The combination works wonderfully, and you can take shots there without flash.

In one of them, the lighting was so weird that I had a blue cast on the left side of the picture and a yellow cast on the right. Not related to luminosity or anything else, as far as I could tell. Having recently watched your LAB video, I just replaced the B channel with the A channel, and bingo, the casts went away. The shot (a Roman statue against a black diesel power generator with white lettering), didn't have any color, and this gave me a great basis for finishing the shot. Man from Mars didn't hurt either.

Thanks, and I hope you'll continue in some mode to develop and share techniques.

A presto,

John Bongiovanni